Mac sits down with Forbes to talk his past success and his formula for upcoming album in Watching Movies with the Sound Off, in stores now. Forbes picks his brain on what’s the difference between this album and the last one and if he’s glad he’s still independent.

“I think if I was with a major, I wouldn’t be able to put out this album, I’m pretty sure,” he says. “Actually, I’m pretty positive … I had a formula that was working beautifully, and then I just kind of ditched it. And so if I was on a major, they’d be like, ‘What are you doing?’”

Watch the full interview below.